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Marc and I were talking about this this morning and I need more opinions! Tell me about these sentences of English - do they work for you?

[Poll #974955]


Linguists, please maintain radio silence about this for a little bit till the data comes in. Just checking, that's all. :)

on 2007-04-28 02:00 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com
Oh, okay, then I won't fill in the poll. :-) But if you want to see the paper I wrote on double direct objects and the dative in modern English, just give a yell. :-)

on 2007-04-28 02:24 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] wordplay.livejournal.com
*grins* I'll make a follow up post later today about the dative alternation and what made me ask this and yeah, please do chime in!

on 2007-04-28 02:10 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] stinaleigh.livejournal.com
The use of the word lightning rather than lighting is what makes me say that the fourth question is a little hinky. If it was lighting rather than lightning it would be great. The last question is bad either way.

on 2007-04-28 02:23 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] wordplay.livejournal.com
The original sentence does, in fact, use the word 'lighting' but I have a long history of reading 'lightning' there - it's much more dramatic that way, no? :D Good to see I stay true to form, at any rate. It shouldn't make a difference in terms of the structure of the sentence, though, so that's interesting.

on 2007-04-28 02:23 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] locumtenens.livejournal.com
You will post the 'results', yes?

on 2007-04-28 02:25 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] wordplay.livejournal.com
Yes, later today! Thanks!

on 2007-04-28 02:29 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jlh.livejournal.com
A couple of the sentences didn't make sense to me even with whatever you were controlling for. Why would there be lightning inside? And I couldn't make the donated money make sense—who donates money to one person? Why is it "the" money? So that threw me and I couldn't make that sentence seem right however it was arranged. I guess if it were "gave" then it would be fine either way.

on 2007-04-28 02:30 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] aome.livejournal.com
The ones lacking prepositions (ie "She lowered John the box") remind me of German dative structures.

on 2007-04-28 05:33 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] piperki.livejournal.com
I'm just not comfortable with lowered + to. It sounds really weird. You lower something, but you don't lower it TO anyone.

Even "lowered toward" would sound odd, but slightly less unacceptable IMO.

on 2007-04-28 03:26 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] aegeus.livejournal.com
I filled in before reading the bit at the bottom, but tried to go with my instincts instead of what I know. Discount my answers if you want.

on 2007-04-28 03:51 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] omphale
For the record, 'a little hinky' for me means that I'd probably say it, especially after spending a few days back home, but I wouldn't write it down anywhere but in a blogpost.

And my love for the word 'hinky' is a bit embarrassing.

on 2007-04-28 04:13 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] sanj.livejournal.com
Well, I tried to apply prescriptive grammar to these and be tough on them, but the sense came through on most of them, and by that standard, I guess even the "bad" ones are really hinky-but-okay.

Or maybe I just hang out with too many linguists. ;)

on 2007-04-28 05:20 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] longtimegone
Polls like these make me omgnervous because I'm terrified I will look ignorant and foolish.

Clearly, I need to get out more. :))

I can't wait to hear the results!

on 2007-04-28 10:02 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] silver-reverie.livejournal.com
*twitches*
Things like this make my English degree mind angsty.
I am interested in the results though

on 2007-04-28 11:43 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] quintus-marcius.livejournal.com
My main problem with the survey was having no idea what the word "hinky" means. Luckily, I can work out a sufficiently accurate meaning from the context. I find language generation very interesting, but from a strictly amateur standpoint (no English language teaching after the age of 12), so I shall keep quiet and eagerly await further postings.

Oh, I suppose I should ask if you need to know my answers to weed out contamination of the results by foreigners.

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